while working on a comments for one of the articles in the march 15, 2015 watchtower (on types and antitypes) i decided to make a transcript of the talk that turned into that particular article.
as usual, the article that finally saw print had evolved quite a bit from the original.. anyway, here's the transcript that i also put up on the ad1914.com site.. the 2014 annual meeting program video can be found on tv.jw.org (currently found under programs and events).
the following speech can be found about the 2 hour and 8 minute mark in the video.
I was barely out of adolescence when I wrote a letter to an elder about my misgivings of some of the doctrines. I mentioned the anti-type issue with a silly poem:
"Typically typical, this type is full of types and even anti-types."
Needless to say they didn't appreciate that. I was df'd for that letter.
this site has gone through many metamorphosis over the years.
i believe it is a kinder, less edgy place tan it was a few years ago.
i wonder how many people were helped versus turned off by this place.
i must say that i have always loved jehovah and his son jesus christ.
i have a 12 inch diameter telescope.
i would go outside and listen to the psalms that praised to my god.
vinman,
"The Watchtower did not teach about why to trust Bible. Did not teach me why I need to worship Yahweh. Did not teach me the reality of Jesus,"
I realize that the Watchtower has nothing worthy to teach us but you tied in your beliefs to the Universe's existence and I responded with an example of 'Creation' that should cause people to think twice before attributing it to the Judeo-Christian-Muslim god.
By the way, have you read Carl Sagan's book Cosmos?
i must say that i have always loved jehovah and his son jesus christ.
i have a 12 inch diameter telescope.
i would go outside and listen to the psalms that praised to my god.
"The first answer that comes to my mind is: to get the result of crashing two galaxies."
If such a god were the all knowing god of the Bible or any similar religion he would already know what the results would be before he even creates those galaxies.
"If, from the micro perspective, you happened to live on one of those small molecular structures facing destruction you'd have one view."
I think the OP had a much more benevolent creator in mind who counts every hair on your head.
i must say that i have always loved jehovah and his son jesus christ.
i have a 12 inch diameter telescope.
i would go outside and listen to the psalms that praised to my god.
The Universe shows signs of order and disorder but not intelligence. The picture down below should help explain why. Why would God crash two galaxies together?
recent events and book reads (one suggested by cofty i believe- thank you) have lead me to the only logical and acceptable conclusion:.
there is no god.. simple logical reasoning: matter can neither me created or destroyed.
so the amount of mass in the universe is constant.
@ Cofty,
"Specify any god that is worshipped today, or ever has been worshipped, and we can prove beyond all reasonable doubt that it does not exist."
One can conceive of a Deistic god who created the Universe in the way a scientist would run an experiment just to see what happens. No Bible, no immortality or judgment, no communicating with us Earthlings. Proving or disproving such a 'god' might not be possible but he could still be there.
this is jim jeffries.
bear in mind that he's performing to an american audience in boston.
his routine does contain south strong language.. https://youtu.be/jl--yvnni0i.
and i am finding the adjustment to the real world far more difficult than i ever imagined...i f...it has been about five years since i totally woke up to the fraudulant nwt and then all my other doubts i had carried for years were proved true as well.
but almost all of my few friends are exjw or slack jw's and i feel so isolated...my sons friends are mostly exjw too but not their gf's and they have way more normal friends .
how have you done at replacing lifelong friends and family?
it just seems to me religion in general primarily makes truly bad people worse, not genuinly good people better; and in many cases has even made good people do bad things in the name of their religion.
just curious, a personal poll if you will.
what are you guys' current views on religion as a whole?
As an atheist I am pretty mild when it comes to religion in theory. I don't care if you believe in fairies and leprechauns. We've been religious ever since we were painting cave walls. We worshipped what we ate. Now however we worship what eats us - demon sky gods and other monstrosities.
I only get aggressive when said religion tries to impose itself in the public arena such as school prayers or imposing their sacred texts on the public. This, the US, is not a Christian nation nor a Buddhist or Hindu or atheist nation. It is a nation for any, every and no religion. Secularism - religious neutrality - is the proper stance for a nation state.
a week or so ago i posted that the forum was 15 years old (15 years of jehovahs-witness.com) and hinted that there may be some news to announce about the site:.
i also may have some other news to share soon about the future of the site so stay posted.
well, now i can announce it - i sold it !.
Nope, I didn't fall for it.
By the way, is the reason you kept jehovahs-witness.com while we were jehovahs-witness.net have anything to do with keeping that name out of the Watchtower's hands?
